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Caro
Moderator
"Also - to be getting only 10 clicks from 1000 readers - that is low low slipperyness. You want 20% plus - many of us can get 40-50% with the web 2.0 platforms. So I would offer that the content is not 'talking' to the market. So check the keyword phrase you are promoting (are you using a main one, or more than one in Stumbleupon?) and then do some more research into that market to see what sort of content/information that market responds to. What are they looking for? And give it to them... Caro
AlekNovi
Member
I'm working on 3 separate phrases and getting these numbers for every new article I put out on each of the blogs.
Phrase1: 415 searches a day
Phrase2: 200 searches a day
Phrase3: 75 searches a day (this one is getting the most stumble traffic)But again, i am getting this traffic on specific articles (howto.platform.com/howtowhatever-in-the-spring/), not on the main page (howtowhatever.platform.com)
I'm using plenty of subphrases in the tagline section. The main phrase (how to make sausages), the general area (sausage making), general category (meat-making), meat, sausages, making sausages, how to make a sausage, why old sausage machines are better (if the article was about that) etc... etc...
They respond to the kind of a stuff that the person i'm linking to is producing obviously (he's been featured on stomper net many times as an incredible IM success story, he's a multi-millionare). I'm wondering if the case is that most of the visitors are fans of the general area already (meat-making fans), so they already know who this is, so they don't even click the affiliate link (it contains his name).p.s.I forgot the most important part... they are clicking the other links... even the stuff on the blogroll... to take an example from yesterday: It's still pretty miniscule 1800 visitors ... 29 clicks on link 1 in the article, 12 on link 2, 9 on link 3, 4 on link 4 (1800 to 50). Maybe it's a matter of stumbleupon? Why am I getting so much traffic if they're not reading the articles... this is baffling
Caro
Moderator
Remembering that there are very little absolutes in this game.It is about hypotheses and testing those.I would suggest the place to work on is the content.As yes maybe they do already know a lot about Mr Sausage.However there is STILL an opportunity for you with great content to want to go and find out more about what Mr Sausage is selling.YOU need to find a positive trigger/call to action for them.Let's use say Dan and the Immediate Edge as an example.People know about him, and you may have an Affiliate link to his website where people can sign up to the IE (this is outside the $1 offer and so forth).So I would be talking about how the IE has positively affected my life and state some specifics. I might even throw in there something about Dan's penchant for wearing pink thongs.I'd be addressing some of the expected objections etc - through them being my own and how they were addressed.I would be looking to share a story as if I was the reader a short time ago - and now that I have found this how it has tangibly impacted me.I would also offer a taste - something to whet their palate without the full reveal - that comes from going to the link.Now if you don't know of the offering yourself - and you are using a character - find a way to write authentically and compellingly - creating a story based at communicating how it will benefit them to be part of Mr Sausage's offering.So that addresses that hypothesis.And the other one may well be that this market does not buy (but if the person's a multi-millionaire it suggests they do buy his stuff - so then it is about how to get them to buy it from you...).Best wishes with it Caro
cmiddlebrook
Moderator
If you imagine the behaviour of the average Stumbler, they have their mouse poised over the Stumble button... they hit it, get a site and they will evaluate the value of that site in seconds and either read on or hit the Stumble button again. It may be that your content isn't 'speaking' to them but it may also be that they don't even bother reading your content in the first place. Here are a few additional tips:
Caro
Moderator
"Also - to be getting only 10 clicks from 1000 readers - that is low low slipperyness. You want 20% plus - many of us can get 40-50% with the web 2.0 platforms. So I would offer that the content is not 'talking' to the market. So check the keyword phrase you are promoting (are you using a main one, or more than one in Stumbleupon?) and then do some more research into that market to see what sort of content/information that market responds to. What are they looking for? And give it to them... Caro
AlekNovi
Member
I'm working on 3 separate phrases and getting these numbers for every new article I put out on each of the blogs.
Phrase1: 415 searches a day
Phrase2: 200 searches a day
Phrase3: 75 searches a day (this one is getting the most stumble traffic)But again, i am getting this traffic on specific articles (howto.platform.com/howtowhatever-in-the-spring/), not on the main page (howtowhatever.platform.com)
I'm using plenty of subphrases in the tagline section. The main phrase (how to make sausages), the general area (sausage making), general category (meat-making), meat, sausages, making sausages, how to make a sausage, why old sausage machines are better (if the article was about that) etc... etc...
They respond to the kind of a stuff that the person i'm linking to is producing obviously (he's been featured on stomper net many times as an incredible IM success story, he's a multi-millionare). I'm wondering if the case is that most of the visitors are fans of the general area already (meat-making fans), so they already know who this is, so they don't even click the affiliate link (it contains his name).p.s.I forgot the most important part... they are clicking the other links... even the stuff on the blogroll... to take an example from yesterday: It's still pretty miniscule 1800 visitors ... 29 clicks on link 1 in the article, 12 on link 2, 9 on link 3, 4 on link 4 (1800 to 50). Maybe it's a matter of stumbleupon? Why am I getting so much traffic if they're not reading the articles... this is baffling
Caro
Moderator
Remembering that there are very little absolutes in this game.It is about hypotheses and testing those.I would suggest the place to work on is the content.As yes maybe they do already know a lot about Mr Sausage.However there is STILL an opportunity for you with great content to want to go and find out more about what Mr Sausage is selling.YOU need to find a positive trigger/call to action for them.Let's use say Dan and the Immediate Edge as an example.People know about him, and you may have an Affiliate link to his website where people can sign up to the IE (this is outside the $1 offer and so forth).So I would be talking about how the IE has positively affected my life and state some specifics. I might even throw in there something about Dan's penchant for wearing pink thongs.I'd be addressing some of the expected objections etc - through them being my own and how they were addressed.I would be looking to share a story as if I was the reader a short time ago - and now that I have found this how it has tangibly impacted me.I would also offer a taste - something to whet their palate without the full reveal - that comes from going to the link.Now if you don't know of the offering yourself - and you are using a character - find a way to write authentically and compellingly - creating a story based at communicating how it will benefit them to be part of Mr Sausage's offering.So that addresses that hypothesis.And the other one may well be that this market does not buy (but if the person's a multi-millionaire it suggests they do buy his stuff - so then it is about how to get them to buy it from you...).Best wishes with it Caro
cmiddlebrook
Moderator
If you imagine the behaviour of the average Stumbler, they have their mouse poised over the Stumble button... they hit it, get a site and they will evaluate the value of that site in seconds and either read on or hit the Stumble button again. It may be that your content isn't 'speaking' to them but it may also be that they don't even bother reading your content in the first place. Here are a few additional tips:
1) Stumblers like unique designs - if your blog looks like every other blog out there it is quickly forgotten and they hit Stumble.
2) Make sure your site has something uniquely recognisable - a picture, a logo, a strong brand name - something, anything to stand out and grab their attention.
3) Make sure your prime content is above the fold. If they have to scroll to get to the juicy stufff, too late they have probably already stumbled.4) Make sure you submit your site into the appropriate category when you submit to SU. If its about sausage making and you submit it to "business" those people will click away super quick.There are a load of articles on the web about optimising Stumble Upon traffic, currently its my highest traffic source for my blog so something I am trying to pay attention to myself.
micronet
Member
Sometimes it's just the little things that can change everything.You stated that the name of the "well known" is in your link.This could be affecting your click rate because your visitors Do know of this person and simply are already familiar with his product or they see an affiliate link and will not click it.Also another possibility is that your visitors are by passing your link(cutting your affiliate part out) and going to the product page.Now I am not saying any of this is happening BUT, it could be, onlytesting will tell.So what to do? Hide your affiliate link(redirect) and make the linkin your article more as I say visitor friendly.This can benefit you in a couple of ways.
micronet
Member
Sometimes it's just the little things that can change everything.You stated that the name of the "well known" is in your link.This could be affecting your click rate because your visitors Do know of this person and simply are already familiar with his product or they see an affiliate link and will not click it.Also another possibility is that your visitors are by passing your link(cutting your affiliate part out) and going to the product page.Now I am not saying any of this is happening BUT, it could be, onlytesting will tell.So what to do? Hide your affiliate link(redirect) and make the linkin your article more as I say visitor friendly.This can benefit you in a couple of ways.
1. Allows you to make your links keyword tagged (good for SEO )
2. Allows you to disguised your affiliate linkExample: instead of ...get this world class sausage recipe athttp://user122.freesau.hop.clickbank.net/?tog=sausage <==affiliate linkYou would have ...get this world class sausage recipe today.where the italicized is your link and is part of the sentence.It should also be blue and not unlined if possible. People on the net have been basically trained to click on blue text!The above is just one example to (play with your links)
3. Stops link jacking, Visitors have to click your link to know where it goes. With redirecting your link is hidden even in the page code.This means noone can edit your link and steal your commisions